we'd find joe smith at nine o'clock at night because we had been looking for him. we would find out from what we got on that target about john doe. we might hit that at midnight, and we'd had another at three in the morning. the reason television important to go fast is because terrorist networks repair themselves very quickly. as soon as -- if we were terrorists, as soon as mark is captured, pretty soon i'm going to hear about it, and the first thing i do is move locations, change my -- all those things, connections that i have, and you call it cut outs because it moves to repair itself. you have to be quicker than they can repair themselves, both the hit targets, and, also, quicker than they promote people up and develop new leaders. overtime, we saw the relative age of leaders in al-qaeda and iraq go down and relative effectiveness go down because of that. the tempo was the rocky strategy of pummel it as fast as you can so it can't breathe, and overtime, have the effect on it, which we did along with another factors. >> watch this and other programs online at bo